if you really liked metal. you would stray away from mainstream. and notice the real beauty of underground metal. here are reasons i dont like slipknot 1.) they made an image for them selves. something i dont support, another reason why i stopped liking black metal. i dont like masks and or make up. 2.) their music is expensive. in metal its about the money. not about how many records you can sell. i like fast and extreme music. i like growls not screams. get it through your slipknot faggot head. its not my style okay? everything i support about music. (how its an art not a way of making you rich)they are against it. listen kid i like Brutal Death metal and grind. something slipknot will not be...ever. you wont see a band like disgorge singing like pussies. you will never see slipknot having any Pig vocals, any slamm riffs, any blast beats. come on. Listen to Some Suffokate and then you will see why the underground is so much better than stardom.